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The Acolyte, Darth Plagueis, Voter ID Issues and More This Week on Whatcha' Watchin'
Ever wondered why some Star Wars series fly high like the Millennium Falcon while others crash harder than a podracer? Well grab a seat, and a drink and join us on location at The Rise N’ Shine restaurant where the geeks debate if “The Acolyte” is the Star Wars series we’ve been looking for.
This episode is loaded with our spirited critiques of recent Star Wars offerings, from the highly praised "Andor" to the less favored "Obi-Wan Kenobi" and "The Book of Boba Fett." We dive into the fresh narrative approach of the two-episode premiere of “The Acolyte” set a hundred years before the Empire, complete with force-fu-style action sequences that have us all drawing parallels to "The Matrix." Plus, you won't want to miss a bet between AP and Eric about the fate of Carrie Ann Moss's character.
From the potential canonization of Darth Plagueis to the visual representation of Jedi in new settings, our discussion is packed with all kinds of speculation. We dive into everything from the idea of local Jedi temples to the technical aspects of filmmaking, like green screen usage versus on-location filming. Wrapping it up, we explore the narrative techniques in mystery and sci-fi storytelling, drawing parallels to films like "Knives Out," and discuss the merchandising potential of new characters like Pip from "The Acolyte."
Tune in for a mix of humor, in-depth analysis, and genuine Star Wars love.
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WARNING Due to technical issues, today's episode has terrible audio quality. If this is your first time at the Go-Go, don't let that dissuade you from following or subscribing to the channel. Now let's get groovy. Hey guys, where does Princess Leia shop for Father's Day? Where? At the Darth Maul. The Darth Maul, get it, get it. Jesus Christ, what do you call two han solos singing together?
Speaker 2:han duet. Oh, it's what you're watching. Welcome to what you're watching, presented by giga. Go for sure we dive into what's currently on our screens. Big screens are little screens. The size matter not here, just the quality of a lot of our cues. I'm Chris nitro joining me today in the togo, anthony Pizzuto hello, and I forgot to mention we are on location at rising shine, beautiful Plainfield, new Jersey ah, I think it's Scotch Plains, is it?
Speaker 1:well, I think that side of the street is Plainfield, this New Jersey. I think it's Scotch Plains, is it? Well, I think that side of the street is Plainfield. This side of the street is Scotch Plains, but I'll take it because I live in Plainfield and I would appreciate Rise and Shine being part of my city, do you know? Yeah, I mean, it's better than the bagel place.
Speaker 3:You don't know, you have not checked out the bagel place. You don't know, you have not checked out the bagel place.
Speaker 1:I know and it's so funny. So Chris sends a picture that looks legitimately like he went in there and took the picture and I'm like. He's like, oh, they have outdoor dining and there's like bagels and stuff and I'm like, oh, how are the bagels? He's like I don.
Speaker 3:Chris, do we need to teach you about how?
Speaker 2:to properly credit someone I'm sharing with you guys. I'm not posting to the internet, okay.
Speaker 3:Because I too thought that you went inside.
Speaker 1:Instead of making me feel like an idiot, you could have just been like hey look what I found on Google, versus me thinking that you were actually scouting locations for us. I actually did get kind of a chuckle out of that. What a knucklehead. I actually did get kind of a chuckle out of that.
Speaker 2:What a knucklehead. We wanted to check out the bagel place but it's pretty small inside. But they do have outdoor seating, so I don't know, but it's a busy intersection.
Speaker 3:Who goes to a bagel shop to do outdoor seating. It's a beautiful day like this. I just think of the old-fashioned bagel shop as a grab-it-and-go.
Speaker 2:I don't think of the old-fashioned bagel shop as a grab-it-and-goes? Yeah, I don't think of it If you make it like a coffee sit-down, lunch-out kind of place.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I get you. What were you up to this week? I was in beautiful Minneapolis, Minnesota. Weather was beautiful. It was a little chilly. It was nice to get out of the mugginess. Getting off the airplane last night at 2.30 in the morning because Chris was keeping me delayed from coming home, Stepping out of New York Airport it was like walking into hot water.
Speaker 3:It was so muggy last night At 2.30 in the morning, 2.30 in the morning, I was like holy hell.
Speaker 1:I mean compared to Minneapolis. It was windy, it was probably like 65, 70. The weather was perfect. But no, it was a productive trip for work. Didn't do anything wild and crazy there, it was kind of an in-and-out type of thing. Yeah, now I'm back and this weekend I have a lot of projects that I need to catch up on, family time that I have to catch up on, which is why I'm not going to be able to join you guys this weekend. I know Family Priorities, man Priorities Got to fight for our time.
Speaker 3:Pick better families. Just kidding, oh, he said it, he said it.
Speaker 1:What about you, Eric? What have you been up to this week?
Speaker 3:The most exciting thing this week was I was a poll worker on Tuesday. Oh yeah, that's right, so that was pretty fun. I forgot you registered for that. Yeah, I did an entire day of New Jersey primary so I was one of those people that signed you in, told you what to do, all that kind of stuff, so I did that from 5 am to around 8.30 pm.
Speaker 2:Damn, you were working the whole time.
Speaker 3:You get like an well, it opens at 6. You need to be there by like 5.15. And then you're just there with your group of people for the entire time?
Speaker 1:Did you break up any fights? Was there like a lot of drama in the local political scene.
Speaker 2:It was not a huge turnout for primaries.
Speaker 3:It was not a great turnout. I want to say the district that I was responsible for you're looking at maybe like 700-800 registered people, maybe like 10% showed up, but to vote primaries, that's already going to be a small group. Some people do early voting, some people do vote by mail. The only thing that was remotely exciting was as we came managing. This is the political state in which we live in these days. But in the state of New Jersey you're not supposed to check licenses. So voter ID, there are voter ID laws not to check licenses, so I think it's a state law.
Speaker 3:Of course we have folks I didn't know that Well, yeah, so if you try to take out your license at a polling place, they'll be like we don't need to see that I've done that before yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you just need to confirm your name, address, date of birth, we'll get you in. Oh, wow. Well, obviously there are some folks who are very unhappy with it, a certain spectrum of the world. So there are definitely people that came in and just went like, shove your ID in our faces, really, and I'll be like, oh, we don't need to see that. Well, you should. And I'll be like, oh, we don't need to see that, and a bit, well, you should and I feel like. Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3:I was like then vote please that's a nice-looking license move along please go talk, please vote for, please vote. Get your elected officials to come make changes. If you want to make changes, mm-hmm, wow, you know and I'm gonna go. So that was some of the excitement throughout the day, but I have befriended my fellow election workers At the end of the night. We're like we'll see you in November, see you in November.
Speaker 3:So it sounds like they like to keep teams together. So I might actually be again with these folks In November. So I made some friends this week. That's a fun part and most of them are your neighbors and it's not what you imagine. You know, when I think of election workers in the past when I've come voting, I only pay attention to, oh, these are like retirees, people who have nothing to do with their day. So they say I'm going to go volunteer and help out. No, there actually are plenty of folks who are still actively working, who just think it's an important civic duty to volunteer a day of your time.
Speaker 3:I mean, we do get paid, but they do think that it's part of their civic duty to come and help out your local community. That's great. And we got to see people who are voting for the first time, so it was very exciting. You know it's a primary, so it's a very low stake kind of voting situation, but it's fun to see people like, oh, I've never voted before, how does it work? That's exciting, that's great, so that's pretty fun. And then the last thing is just gosh, a lot of these things could have been automated or the user experience could be much, much better. But you know antistasis and everything. So that's the highlight of my week. What?
Speaker 2:about you, chris. My week is pretty, fairly uneventful. I got to do my physical yesterday. Let's check the box. Yeah, I think that's pretty much it. I didn't really do much else. Yeah, just working. I'm not laying into these flights.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:Ruining my week.
Speaker 2:You're looking forward to what tomorrow. Tomorrow, folks, today's Friday. Tomorrow, folks, today's Friday. Tomorrow, saturday, june 8th is Ghostbusters Day. Yeah, and I thought it was a very specific to New York thing. It is not. I just saw an article that it's also taking place on the West Coast too, so there may be festivities all across the country. I have not come across them. We've kind of dipped our toes into this fandom just a little bit. I know it existed, I know it's well established, but Eric and I we're going to head over to Hook and Ladder 8 in Manhattan, this beautiful, iconic firehouse we've talked about before downtown Manhattan. That is the set, exterior set, I should say it's the.
Speaker 3:Ochi firehouse right the original firehouse. I don't know what they have out in the west coast, but you know right, I mean there there are.
Speaker 2:It's funnily enough, there are hook and ladder aids all across the country. So we saw one I thought it was you that found it recently, or someone found it recently. Someone was selling like a hook and ladder 8 it was an old firehouse they kept it as like a mechanic shop or something like that.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, it's really cool that they exist. So I'm really excited about that. Meet fellow Ghost Country fans and what not. That's what we're going to do tomorrow, saturday cool that they exist. I'm really excited about that. Meet fellow Ghostbusters fans and whatnot. That's what we're going to do tomorrow, saturday Again, june 8th. This is coming out on Monday. Let's put some pictures on the Instagram. We'll post, we'll do a recap. We have an Instagram.
Speaker 1:Yes, we have an Instagram. You don't have an Instagram.
Speaker 2:We'll edit that out.
Speaker 1:Oh no, it have an Instagram. You don't have an Instagram. We'll edit that out.
Speaker 2:Oh no, it's staying in.
Speaker 2:But, chris, something else happened this week in regards to Ghostbusters and you or us, oh, we officially took the helm the three of us, I should say I took the helm, but we are going to share the load and the love of Ghostbusters. We took over the costuming group, the North Jersey Ghostbusters that's what they go by. On Facebook. I literally set up a Gmail account yesterday. We are now registered. I don't know how long it takes to populate and there may be some questions back and forth. We don't have an official logo yet, but we are registered on, or we started to register on, whoyougonnacallcom I think it's com, maybe it's net. That's terrible.
Speaker 2:I should do my research, but there were a lot of questions I had to answer. So there was a lot of back and forth and I forgot if it was one of those. But whoyougon going to call Google that? Who are you going to call? And you'll find the website. Hopefully it comes up soon and talks about what the group encompasses and whatnot I did put down. We're like basically half of central Jersey and then all of north Jersey. We've got a few excited people that are posting expressing interest Like what are we doing, where are we going, and stuff like that. So we're excited about that. We're going to make our debut appearance tomorrow in New York, funnily enough, but I think it's a very fitting place to start and interact with many, many people.
Speaker 3:Maybe we'll find other people from New Jersey. Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 2:I hope so. I know the event is hosted by funnily enough the Buffalo Ghostbusters. At least on Facebook there is a New York City Ghostbusters and you know they're doing hotel blocks in New Jersey. They're doing tons of stuff, so I'm pretty sure we'll come across other New Jersey Ghostbusters as well, whether they're in New Jersey or not, you know fellow Jersey Ghostbusters. It'd be a really cool thing to experience.
Speaker 3:Maybe we should go find haunted houses.
Speaker 2:That is actually an option Okay, of what services are provided I?
Speaker 1:love that Right.
Speaker 2:That's awesome so there was a whole checkbox system that said you know, do you do birthday parties? Funnily enough, as we've seen in Ghostbusters 2. Do we do birthdays? Do we have a Nectar 1? Do we do corporate events? Do we do movie theaters appearances? And one of them was paranormal investigations. So today we're doing a special Watcha Watcha, where the three of us are talking about one thing, and that one thing is the Acolyte. The Acolyte premiered on Disney Plus on June 4th, 9 pm Eastern Time, so just a few days ago. Again, this airs on Monday, so well within the spoiler free timeline that we've all established here. So let's get right into it. Anthony, what do you think about the Acolyte?
Speaker 3:Basically, we're just picking people who are eating right now. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:Excuse me, I have been consistently disappointed with what's been coming out of Lucasfilm these last few series, oh yeah. Andor included. Andor is the exception. Obi-wan wasn't a fan, boba Fett not a fan. Ahsoka was so-so, it was Ah-so-so-ka. I knew it. You like that? Thank you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we'll take roadies.
Speaker 1:It took me three sittings to watch the two episodes, because I started watching the first episode when I got to Minneapolis at 1 o'clock in the morning, kind of dozed off, and then throughout the rest of it, I finally finished episode two at the airport, as Chris had kept me delayed for two hours Three hours. I actually really liked it, and what I like most about it and we've talked about this on the show before is I'm so sick of us having to rely on the nostalgia factor, like having to have Darth Vader appear or having to use Obi-Wan or Boba Fett to sell a story. It's tired, it's lazy, but what's great about this is we're a hundred years before the Empire, and so it's a whole new galaxy, it's a whole new territory, it's a whole new, mostly batch of characters. I mean I'm sure Yoda's going to make an appearance.
Speaker 3:He is alive.
Speaker 1:And he's a Jedi Master, you know, because he's very prevalent in the High Republic series, which happens even further in the past. Chewbacca's probably around, because he's 200 years old by the time a new Hulk comes around, so this is a baby Chewbacca. Who knows, teenager Chewbacca.
Speaker 3:Why not?
Speaker 1:Teenager Chewbacca yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't think we'll see Chewbacca.
Speaker 1:I don't think we'll see it. I think we're definitely going to see Yoda. We're definitely going to see Yoda. I don't know about Chewie, but I was. There are nitpicky things in these first two episodes that kind of annoyed me, but not so much where I'm like, yeah, akin to it didn't feel like the other content that's been coming out lately. It felt very. It felt fresh and familiar at the same time. I don't know how best to verbalize that. It's almost like it had a level of sci-fi channel this to it which is good.
Speaker 3:We were bad in a good way, in a in good way.
Speaker 1:I think that might be the familiarity piece to it which I liked. I like where they're going, so just to kind of read the synopsis logline of the series An investigation into a shocking crime spree pits a respected Jedi Master against a dangerous warrior from his past. As more clues emerge, they travel down a dark path where sinister forces reveal all is not what it seems. Dun dun dun. So I think we're in for a treat. But I really enjoyed the first two episodes, the characters that were introduced. So we have May, who we quickly find out is a twin. That's not a big surprise. There you mean Osha, osha. Well, yeah, may slash Osha.
Speaker 3:Oh, it's interesting how on IMDb she's credited as May.
Speaker 1:You know, what's also interesting too is yeah, that is interesting. She's not credited as anybody else other than May Carrie Ann Moss. It's not credited as anybody else other than Meg Carrie Ann Moss. It's a lot of kung fu. It was a lot more kung fu than I was expecting. I love it.
Speaker 3:It's got wire work.
Speaker 1:It felt like Matrix. It felt Matrix-y. That's right, and I love how. And again, I guess we're in the spoiler-free zone because it's been a week by the time this comes out. If anybody went to the IMDb page in the last nine months, they would have seen that Carrie Ann Moss was only credited in one episode. She's always been credited in one episode, so you knew she was going to die. Yeah, but you don't know that.
Speaker 1:Well, you knew that she wasn't going to be a presence, but you don't know that. Well, you knew that she wasn't going to be a presence because she's only in one out of ten episodes. So either she dies or she just makes a quick appearance for a start.
Speaker 3:There's no way.
Speaker 1:Look at that, it's right there. One episode.
Speaker 3:It's not updated. There's no way. How is the main've got to be there for only two episodes?
Speaker 1:Maybe he doesn't, so question.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I don't have a pro account, so I don't know this.
Speaker 3:Yeah, hey yo.
Speaker 1:Is this? Is IMDB crowdsourced like Wikipedia is? There is a level of crowdsourcing but it's verified. Okay, so you can submit a update, but they will then go and verify it that it's an actual credited role or something like that.
Speaker 2:How do the uncredited roles, not specifically the show? I see that occasionally.
Speaker 1:That's a good question. I don't know how uncredited roles actually work.
Speaker 3:There's no way I'm calling it. There's no way so.
Speaker 1:May is credited with eight episodes. Same thing with Daphne King. This character we've not even met yet. Mother and Naseya is credited for six episodes.
Speaker 3:There's no way. All these other people are only in two and one episodes. I mean Torben, I mean he. There is no way.
Speaker 1:You don't think so.
Speaker 3:No, they're updating this as they go because I know.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, all right, all right, I'm going to put, I'll bet $5 that Carrie and Moss is dead and we're not going to see her again.
Speaker 3:I'm going to say she's dead. She's not dead. Okay, I'm saying we're going to see her again.
Speaker 1:All right, okay, so I'll rephrase my bet $5, carrie and Moss, we're not going to see her again. Oh, it's long we're going to see her.
Speaker 2:I'm not jumping in on this bet, but I'm siding with Eric on this.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right, all right.
Speaker 2:I've mentioned it before where and people have done this they get a bigger name actor right, as Carrie Asmos is. I don't think anyone else is as A-lister as she is on the show. And so they bring this exciting person to get the show going, and then they kill him off in the first episode. And why would I?
Speaker 3:sign on as Carrie Ann Moss, to do the first 30 seconds of the show.
Speaker 1:Because it's a Star Wars. Would you sign on to do 30 seconds of a Star Wars? Not if I'm Carrie.
Speaker 3:Ann Moss Money better be real good. Well, that's probably why she only did one episode. They say this show's budget is bigger than Obi-Wan's. Oh, is it really? Yeah, oh, wow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean to Eric's point and I think this is where he's going is that at a minimum there has to be a flashback?
Speaker 2:There's going to be flashbacks, so how I like in this show is how the Mandalorian was credited as a western. This is a Japanese western. It has that stuck work, has all the fighting and all that stuff, like a lot of iconic movies and shows in Japan have given us I'm coming up short with like as an example, but we kind of know that already with the Mandalorian that they literally took from One Wolf a Cup right. So this is more. And we always know that Jedi have roots in samurai. This is more of a Japanese show, right. More fighting, more wire work, more stunts and this and that. So that's my take on the show and we know there are going to be like. This is almost like a detective series too.
Speaker 3:It literally says it in the title.
Speaker 2:There's going to be like making connections. Oh, you were in, so there has to be she's going to show up somewhere else.
Speaker 3:And I'm pretty sure the trailer showed her in the past.
Speaker 2:I didn't go back to verify this. I want to be.
Speaker 3:I'm one of those people that, like I, don't bother watching trailers if I know absolutely I'm going to watch a show or movie or whatever, which, by the way, speaking of trailers, I mean it's been a while since I watched it also, but I'm pretty sure the majority of the trailer came from these first two episodes. I would think so, which I love, because when you watch a trailer, you go oh, how far away is this thing Right? And now you're like, oh, this is like everything happened. And that's one comment I'll make Everything's happening very quickly in these two episodes. They move really fast. And in these two episodes they move really fast. I was watching with Jessie, who's not a huge Star Wars follower Even she was commenting on it. She's like, oh, wow, they're really progressing really quickly. Throughout these first two episodes, they didn't keep you waiting on the fact that there's a twin out there somewhere. That could have come much later. They kill Carrion Moss within the first 30 seconds, you know, but look at Obi-Wan. Later.
Speaker 1:They kill Carrion Moss within the first 30 seconds, you know. But look at Obi-Wan, look at Ahsoka. Like I think, if you go back and reread the comments from our beloved fanbase, a lot of it was about how slow it was, how the slow start was. So kind of using that feedback of saying, okay, you don't like slow, let's do big and see what happens. I mean, I really like it.
Speaker 3:I really like how fast it's moving, like two episodes in and we're like I think people are confusing the slowness with action.
Speaker 2:Right, you don't have to be a very quick story to have action in it. Right, like fight sequences were great, oh, wireworks man yeah. So fun and but the plot progression is like you know. Usually you would think like oh, the twin reveal would happen in like episode five or something like that that's what I'm saying Boom Like a mid-season, like cliff would happen in like episode five, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Boom, like a mid-season, like cliff, right. Um, you know, old padawan uh gets connects with, uh, her old master, like that's stuff that happens later on in stories, like you know. You know, if this was a film, it would all happen in the first five minutes, right, yeah, but the slowness of a, of a tv series like they, they have to space that. I think they have to space out. They made the decision to space it out. I think all those people are wrong complaining about the slowness. It's an episodic TV show. What do you expect?
Speaker 3:How many episodes is this supposed to be Eight.
Speaker 1:Which again drives me crazy. I wish they would go longer with these things. Going back to what you guys were talking about, it's funny that this word is being used. So Hedlund, leslie Hedlund, the creator of Acolyte, who I don't believe has much of a sci-fi pedigree at all. I mean, she had Single Drunk Female Russian Doll. She was a co-producer on Pink and Blue Heathers.
Speaker 3:I don't think I've seen anything that she's done.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I mean I'm aware of some of these things. I mean Russian Doll was on Netflix. I was with the gal from American.
Speaker 2:Pie yeah, Natasha.
Speaker 1:That's her last name Sleeping with Other People. I have not watched any of these things, yeah, and so it's interesting that she's now kind of she's now the creator and showrunner of such an iconic piece of IP, but she actually says in an interview with Esquire that the acolyte is inspired by the Matrix, calling the fighting style on the show force food. That's cool, yeah, yeah, so it's kind of like a no that carrie land moss made an appearance you know she, uh, she also said something with some other interview which I'm very excited about.
Speaker 3:we haven't seen lightsaber battles yet, but apparently she wanted the light. You'll notice the lightsaber here. I think it's different than lightsabers in obi-wan because she wanted weight on these lights lightsabers. So I think when we see lightsabers in fights it's going to be a lot more weight, because I think they were talking about the construction of lightsabers completely different. I think these actually glow Interesting. These are sticks or something, and so people are actually going to be really fighting against one another, not dancing around them.
Speaker 1:Wasn't there a comment in the show where one of them said you use a lightsaber if you're going to kill, yeah, and so I felt like there was a lot more force and force-fu than the lightsaber stuff. So maybe that's why we haven't seen a lot of it yet, but as we meet the main protagonist or antagonist, we'll probably see a lot more.
Speaker 2:I'm the last person to school anybody on the High Republic era having read three quarters of a book.
Speaker 3:Just keep going, man, it gets good, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:No, I have tons of books. I have tons of comics, but I haven't opened any of them. Of books, I have tons of comics, but I haven't opened any of them. But it's a more. But I did read the Timelines book.
Speaker 2:I don't know if you guys saw that it's a work of art in itself. This is more of a purified time of the Jedi. They're more strict with their rules. Although we start this show with oh, jedi are not supposed to do that, but you have the character. That's like reinforcing Jedi are not supposed to do that. Oh, I was told to do this. What do you want me to do now? Very, very regimented. Oh, I just became a Jedi Knight. I've got to follow all the rules. I forgot the character's name, yord.
Speaker 3:Yord's a nerd.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's what I'm getting at, you have that whole era of like the Jedi have been around for centuries now at this point and they haven't really had an opponent, so to speak, as in the dark side. If you read the High Republic, they do have an opponent, it to speak as in the dark side. Sure, if you read the High Republic.
Speaker 1:they do have an opponent, it's just not that thing. The Nihilists.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so it's interesting because what Jesse pointed out it's nice to watch with somebody who's not as deep into this as we are. There are several moments in the show where she goes. I thought you guys were supposed to be very good at detecting these things. Why aren't they picking them up Like, oh, there's someone ill-intended or someone who's clearly?
Speaker 2:lying? Where is the disturbance in the force?
Speaker 3:She's like why are they picking any of these things up? And I was like, oh, that's a really good point.
Speaker 1:It just may be something they've never experienced well, I mean eventually when we get to Phantom Menace. No one knows that, so maybe this is a precursor into getting into Darth Plagueis, who taught.
Speaker 2:Palpatine. A lot of people are excited about that Darth Plagueis device to make him canon. I mean he is canon Palpatine. A lot of people are excited about that To play his device To make him canon.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean he is canon. I'm just saying like to actually see him Visually canonize him. What I really like too, actually, about talking about like just a lot of Jedis these days Outpost Jedis, jedi I guess Jedi is a plural, but like the Jedi that we meet in Outpost you can tell, like their clothes and all that kind of stuff is a little different than the one who came from Coruscant Right, they're more like local. You know it's a little rougher, like their fabric.
Speaker 2:I really like the Patamon that in the second episode and you liken it to what we saw in the Bad Batch, and I forget the character's name, but like remember those clone troopers that were like abandoned and they were just making do with what they had and stuff like that.
Speaker 3:It's kind of like that. I like how there's like a local Jedi temple. We've never seen that before.
Speaker 1:No, yeah right yep, it's like your. What do we call them? Where the diplomats all go?
Speaker 2:Embassy. It's like an embassy, yeah, yeah, yeah. The other way, it's a consulate.
Speaker 3:Consulate. I think the embassy is in the capital of the country. There's one embassy and there are multiple consulates, multiple consulates, gotcha, gotcha.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean overall I liked it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're only two episodes in.
Speaker 2:I can't definitively judge anything Just based on these two episodes.
Speaker 3:I've liked the costumes. The Jedi ropes are a lot different than what we're used to. I mean, I say it's very different, Just as a go-ahead. The same to me.
Speaker 2:I'm like, oh, look at the details.
Speaker 3:I mean, I want one. I was looking at it and I go, I like this, you can I go like that. I like this, like the. You can tell. The material is significantly different. There's patterns on them, the color is different. Um, there are capes. Everybody walk around with capes. It's really, really cool, not ropes capes.
Speaker 2:Um, the interesting thing, I, I think. Um, I'm not going to take a bet on this, but I think on this, but I think we're going to see the creation of R2. Because we've never Correct me if I'm wrong we don't. He exists in the Phantom Menace. He's there already.
Speaker 3:He's been a working joy.
Speaker 2:So the character Was it Maya or Osha? It's Maya right, may no Osha. It's Osha Osha. That's Maya, right, may no Osha. It's Osha Osha is the R2. Osha she says the Trade Federation is not supposed to be using mechanics or something like that anymore, but then when her friend the Jedi shows up and says oh, what are you doing?
Speaker 3:She's like I'm the mechanic, she just flat out admits to it. Which, by the way, is so fun to see the Trade Federation. It's kind of like oh, that was unexpected. Where did those guys come from? Yeah, we haven't seen them since War of the Animated. Yeah, and they look not as powerful as they are in Phantom Menace this is the beginning of the Trade.
Speaker 2:Federation. I heard a comment about the Asian accent.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, they changed that slightly, make it left.
Speaker 1:They dialed it down. They had to dial that down.
Speaker 2:I still think it's hilarious that they had to dial that down. One of her friends said he was suspecting a Brooklyn accident or something. Just to get away from it completely.
Speaker 3:Hey, they're a different sector of the universe, you don't know?
Speaker 2:Listen, I don't think it's a big deal. If they have an Asian accent, great, I don't think it's a big deal. I understand the stereotype thing, but it's an accent People have them.
Speaker 3:I will say. The one thing that bugged me a little bit is and this is us getting spoiled. But I think I could see very easily now when some things are filming on a green screen or in the bottom, and there are shots where I go that look just like it's in a video game. It doesn't feel as good, as you know, like the likes of Endor, when they're out there actually in the wild shooting these things. It's just such a difference. Yeah, like I don't know how much of this is like filmed on set versus like on location, but like like the opening when May is coming in to to fight Carrie Moss, like there's a shot of her. This is very early in the shot like of her and this is actually the opening.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we're good, thank you. Like the opening scene of the of the show, like the whole vista behind her, I was like this looks like a video game and that threw me off a little bit and I did not like it.
Speaker 1:So yeah, the two things that and these are very nitpicky, yes, but I really noticed it when they were looking through the macro binoculars. There was something about the clarity that it just looked like they took footage from the camera and threw it on, you know, threw it in Premiere to make it look like he was looking at it, and I was like that's what kind of gave me like a cheap sci-fi channel type of thing.
Speaker 3:I was like they could have spent a couple minutes on, like you know, graining this up and making it feel more like he's looking through a binocular like you know, graining this up and making it feel more like he's looking through a binocular which, by the way, that scene you're talking about, when you're always like looking down. Yeah, yeah, he's right there. Why is he using a binocular?
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, well, there's that too, yes, yes, so that kind of technical thing was a little annoying to me, but again, it doesn't casting decision. I don't know why it was made, but the actor who played Torben Dean, charles Chapman, looked like a little kid in a high school play, with a fake beard on and fake eye and a fake eye More so the beard, though. I was like why is this little boy wearing a fake beard playing a sage Jedi trapped in meditation, southern post-meditation? You couldn't have found a big boy, a grown-up, an adult, to play this character. It was very jarring to me.
Speaker 1:That kind of took me out of it a little bit. So I'm glad he didn't stick around, but I was like Flashback.
Speaker 3:Flashback. I'll put another $5 down that we're not going to be sure of they keep talking about four Jedis back on the planet. Yes, they're going to talk about them together. Thank you, you're welcome? I don't think welcome. I guarantee you they will show up.
Speaker 1:Alright, alright, it could be a big old switcheroo, but you and I five dollars, want to throw another five on Torben.
Speaker 3:He wants the same one.
Speaker 2:So she's going let's dissect this a little bit she's going after these four Jedi because, I'm assuming they let her die.
Speaker 3:She's killed two in two episodes. By the way, she's killed two in two episodes by the way Right. She's killed two in two episodes.
Speaker 2:They let her die, right, so she's trying to get vengeance right For her whole family died, even though she's not dead. So but we never see them in her flashbacks. Right, we see flamesbacks? Right, we see flames. I think you see carry a boss flashing back. No, that was a trailer. Okay, I thought that at some point, like when she said, like what are you doing here? Like just after that, like during the fighters point, that she comes to realization. I could be wrong, I thought. I remember that, but to your point it's true, right, so there's gonna come.
Speaker 2:I think there's gonna come a point, or visually. I think, as a director. If I were the director at some point, you kind of paint the whole scene of what happened yeah right but it's.
Speaker 3:It's very much to me like what's that?
Speaker 1:Like Knives.
Speaker 2:Out. I did not see all of Knives Out. Well, I mean, they started watching it and they got pulled from the service I was watching, was it?
Speaker 3:It is Knives Out. Yeah, I was listening to Knives Out, but you know, you tell a story. You tell a story, you tell a story. It unwinds, unwinds, unwinds, and you get to the end and boom, they play back the entire scenario from the beginning.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, well, I mean, yeah, this is supposed to be a very Agatha Christie-ish, matrix-y type of whodunit.
Speaker 3:Ah, if Keanu Reeves is making an appearance, I will listen.
Speaker 1:Morpheus, Is that on there? It was on Amazon, but then the what?
Speaker 2:was the second. I know Morpheus, it's not on there. Okay, it was on Amazon. But then the what was the second?
Speaker 1:one called Onion Onion, glass Onion.
Speaker 2:Onion Rings, onion Rings. It was on Amazon Prime, but then the. Onion movie was coming out and they pulled it Gotcha, so you had to pay your rent or whatever, and I was like out and they pulled it, gotcha, so you had to pay your rent or whatever, and I was like I'm not doing this, I'll wait until it comes back out.
Speaker 1:So predictions for the show you think we're going to see the birth of R2?
Speaker 2:Yeah, at some point, maybe not in this season, but if it continues on multiple seasons, I think we'll get to it.
Speaker 1:And they mentioned R2. They said something about an R2 unit. Oh, they say R2 units, yeah, but that was interesting because it's an astromech unit, not an R2 unit, because there's R4, r2, r5, so on and so forth.
Speaker 3:Maybe right now there's only one R model, and it's R2. Is it R1s?
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's the R1s. Yeah, there's the R1s.
Speaker 2:Have you ever seen R1s? Nah, I don't think so.
Speaker 3:What are the R1s, r1, f-35s, maybe those are prototypes, yeah, and production ones are R2s.
Speaker 2:This okay, according to Wikipedia this is the R1 series.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we're not going to see R1s. It looks like a Dalek. Yeah, it's a Dalek.
Speaker 2:It, it does actually, yes, yes.
Speaker 1:We'll post a picture in the show notes of the Dalek-looking R1 series. Yeah, I bet R2's the mainstream units. So yeah, we might see the R1 series go away. And uh, wait, was there an R1 in A New Hope on screen? Yeah, there's a screen used R1 right there. We've just never From where. This must have been A New Hope. It's in the background somewhere. It's definitely in the. It's probably in the sand crawler. But yeah, it definitely looks like a Dalek, possibly Plagueis. Can we think what's the correct Plagueis? We didn't see more of the antagonist, we just saw briefly at the end, a shadow from the back and a saber, a red saber.
Speaker 1:What do you think? What are your predictions?
Speaker 3:I predict the four Jedi set fire and killed everybody. Burn the world. I think it's actually calling you.
Speaker 1:Oh yep. I had a meeting, but it was moved. I I don't know why, it just seemed to my face.
Speaker 3:What'd you tell him? No, I bet they did something bad. Yeah, and there was a cover-up, mmm. Otherwise, why would that guy kill himself? Yeah, like something. He felt bad about something. No, that's true, yeah, and he kept himself in state and what I thought was interesting was May saw Osha for the first time and was surprised that Osha was still alive. So something happened where May thought Osha died and Osha thought May died.
Speaker 1:Well, didn't.
Speaker 3:Master Sol. He said they tried to save them both, but he couldn't. Yeah right.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:But he didn't say anything about. We don't know. They just say that she was presumed to be dead. Yeah, maybe it's a series of unfortunate events that led to the Jedi accidentally setting fire to the entire place and everyone died.
Speaker 1:I dig it. I'm just bummed. There's only 8 episodes. I feel like this will be.
Speaker 2:This is going to be a fun series it's kind of a new thing, like no one you know, having watched Big Bang not too long ago like you don't have the 24-episode arcs anymore, like sitcoms. I mean, yes, they're limited to 30 minutes, but you need, like some of these episodes, dip below 30 minutes. You have like 28-minute episodes, 29-minute episodes.
Speaker 3:I think it's how you know how there's talks about for people with, like Star Wars fatigue and how there's talks about for people with Star Wars fatigue, and how do you why keep out pumping content Especially like that? To be able to keep track of that story is going to be crazy. How do you find a time and a place?
Speaker 2:to do multiple seasons. How many episodes is Game of Thrones? Like 12,? I think yeah, but there was a book I get that.
Speaker 1:But just like they did with the Harry.
Speaker 2:Potter books. They made 8 movies out of 7 books.
Speaker 3:That's called milking it. There were 73 episodes across the series. The Hobbit did not need to be in 3 episodes.
Speaker 2:Instead we have this one hour film saga Lord of the Rings.
Speaker 3:See One hour each book. I mean sorry, one movie each book, I'm okay with that it's like Game of Thrones with like ten episodes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, ten episodes each season, each season. I'm just so annoyed the book is still not done yet what merch are you looking forward to coming out of this? I'm assuming everyone wants a Pip for Christmas Everyone, definitely wants a Pip.
Speaker 3:No, I want a Jedi robe.
Speaker 1:You want a Jedi robe? Okay, yeah, master Soul's robe. So I like what they did with Pip because it is super producible and it could be so much more functional than Lola. So they tried to Than Lola, so they try to Merch Lola. This is, this is the.
Speaker 2:You can't merge, lola. This is the Star Wars tricorder.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yes, they can do everything. They can do everything they can do everything I did. Did you have that moment? Because I did have that moment when, when she was trying to Break out of prison and she ripped Pip's head off and went, oh. I was like that's messed up. Pip is a Swiss army and I was like oh, pip's a tool, pip's a tool, pip's a tool, pip is totally a tool.
Speaker 1:But I did have a moment where I was like, and then when she was like, oh, okay, okay, yeah, I can definitely see Pip in people's stockings this year, more so than Lola.
Speaker 3:Oh, there should be a crossover with like a Black Decker or something. Are these still around? Is Black Decker still around? Sure, yeah, I think they're owned by.
Speaker 1:I have no idea DeWalt actually owns them. Dewalt, I think owns Craftsman and Black Decker now.
Speaker 3:Anyway, these guys do a crossover, but you can actually see that.
Speaker 1:Think about put in there.
Speaker 3:Totally yeah. And then someone modded to be a flamethrower. Well, there was a big crossover with Autodesk for this series. I did see that. Design your own.
Speaker 1:Design your own droid. Yeah, and there's all these features on how Pip was made in Autodesk and all that.
Speaker 2:Cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I'm sure we will quickly be seeing files on Thingiverse and you know, and other Patreons to make your own. Yeah, that'll be a fun for sure.
Speaker 3:I am curious about Chimera as a character. Who's that time? Here's the, the pharmacist dude that she went to to make. Oh, yeah, yeah, I mean, I just like I think he's like, is he another, another acolyte? Because he in the conversation. It feels like they have a shared master yes.
Speaker 3:I don't think it's like. So he's just telling enough lie to get away for himself. Like he's telling half truths to get away from the interrogation, which, by the way, so fun to see. Jedi like cops, like, just like, is it true? What did you say? I'll let you go with a warning kind of situation, but I am curious about him to see what else is going to happen to him. And he beat May in a fight.
Speaker 1:So there's two actors that are listed in the credits but they don't have a character attached to them Paul Bullion, british actor from the Witcher, which I actually never watched, that you never saw. The Witcher no, there's so many. Actor from the Witcher which I actually never watched, that you never saw the Witcher no, there's so many people in the Witcher, it's probably like an unredited something in the background. He's also in Peaky Blinders.
Speaker 1:Oh he was Lambert in the Witcher. Who's Lambert? I think Lambert's one of the Witchers. Oh okay, he was in Dune. He was a Sardarkar soldier, so he's not credited with an actual character. And then Amy Tsang from Kung Fu Swat Call Me by my Name General Hospital Snakehead. Anyway she is. Is she a stunt double? It just has nothing next to her. She might be a stunt double. They're the only two actors that don't have any name, so I'm curious who they might end up being. They're no one of Like. I was looking for someone who was like a puppeteer or something like that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm not buying this whole IMDb already uploaded situation. Okay, alright, alright, or something like that. Yeah, I'm not buying this, so I'm going to be already uploading the situation.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right, all right, all right. We're a quarter of the way through the series.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but to your point, the puppeteers are not on here. There's got to be other people that they end up eventually putting on here once the whole thing comes out.
Speaker 1:Well, this is cast. It could be. Let's see.
Speaker 2:Is the crew filled out?
Speaker 1:yet yeah series, yeah, oh yeah, we have hair and makeup Prostate, second unit Art department Okay.
Speaker 2:Creature effects.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that's a makeup yeah, artist who played the droid, the the, you know the big. Oh yeah, the security.
Speaker 3:Maybe that was lambert, maybe that was oh, which, by the way, was so cool. The chairs was the coolest thing. Yeah, that was really neat. When they started closing up, I was like that's a chair there.
Speaker 1:It is yeah, and I will say that, that prison droid. Does anybody remember what that prison droid was? I don't know, man, that prison droid felt pretty lame. What was that?
Speaker 3:The prison droid I felt was pretty lame. But the chair droids were very, very cool.
Speaker 1:But now people like us can cosplay as a protocol. Droid.
Speaker 3:We can also cosplay as that Padawan. No, can cosplay as a protocol droid. Well, he can also cosplay as that.
Speaker 1:Padawan, I mean no, but you have to be built like Justin Sunfield to be able to fit into a C-3PO outfit. I can't fit into a C-3PO outfit, but I can fit into Prison Droid Guy's costume, soul droid. No offense to Justin Sunfield, you have a beautiful body.
Speaker 3:This got very weird, very weird. We did not take you down there. You went down there recently.
Speaker 1:I dragged myself down there. He doesn't listen to this. Leave a comment if you listen to this.
Speaker 2:He is a subscriber. You're going to get a text.
Speaker 1:I'm going to get a text.
Speaker 3:I do like I think I have been generally satisfied with this.
Speaker 1:So quarter series disco balls, it's quarter series, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:We're two episodes in so Chris, two episodes in disco balls. I'm going to be reserved and I will give it three disco balls.
Speaker 3:No, I'm going to do three and a half.
Speaker 1:Three and a half, Okay. Well, you know what. I too will keep reserves. I'm gonna do three Wait that guy who's? That guy.
Speaker 3:What yeah, jeff King, this is who I think he is. Oh, no different guy.
Speaker 1:Alright cool.
Speaker 3:So our average is three and a quarter. Yeah, so what day of the week are these coming out?
Speaker 2:Tuesdays, wednesdays Stick to Tuesday. Tuesday nights right, I mean, it started on Tuesday night, doesn't it Every?
Speaker 1:Tuesday at 6 pm Pacific time.
Speaker 3:Which is funny because Tuesday when I woke up I went Ah, acolyte day. I turned on TV and I go. Why?
Speaker 2:no, I got it worse. I'm telling my wife we have to sit down in front of the TV at six. She's like, all right, well, it's time to dinner, dinner. I was like, well, scarf down dinner and sit down and eat, blah, blah, blah. And so we go through the whole deal and you know, it's like 6.15. And I'm like sweat bullets. I'm like are we watching now? And she's like, well, I wanted to go for a walk and I'm like you're killing me. She's like, just watch it, just. She's like it starts at 9. I was like, no, it's at 6.
Speaker 3:It's at 6.
Speaker 2:They started with Pacific time. I was like they never do that. It's always 9, 6 Pacific. They always start with Eastern and they did it.
Speaker 3:They just did it. I will tell you. By the way, having lived in Central time zone, it is the ideal time zone to live in, for anything Like TV show comes out at a reasonable time, Sports in at and at a reasonable time, whether it's West or East Coast, and I very much miss that. That's cool. So it's a schedule. So now it's just every week. There you go.
Speaker 2:Go down. You found the release schedule.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so it's every seven days, so every week, until July 16th.
Speaker 1:All right, good episode.
Speaker 3:This is good stuff. This gets me excited about more Star Wars. When is the Mandalorian movie supposed to come out? 25, I think, yeah, I think. So they're probably actively filming that now, and then we're going to get another Endor at the beginning of next year we're going to get a new Endor next year. New Endor, oh Endor.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, next year, 2026?. Yeah, 2026?. We're going to get new Endor next year. New Endor, yeah, endor, season 3. Oh, endor, yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought we were going to do an Ewok movie, okay.
Speaker 2:Another one. Another one, but a good one.
Speaker 1:About a third time's a charm.
Speaker 3:All right.
Speaker 1:Chris, why don't you take us home?
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